Crisp DNA Results

Our first results, Donor Group A, indicates these ancestors are closely related. It would be difficult to say how they were related, perhaps their decendents have more info.

The Haplogroups shown in Red have not been confirmed. Those shown in Green have been confirmed.

Group A

 

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Moses Prescott Crisp b. 1750-60 NC Raymond
13313

R1b1

 

 13 24 14 12 14 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17                        
William James Crisp 1856 NC Peter
46936 		 R1b1 13 24 14 12 14 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17                        
William M. W. Crisp Robert M. #101897 R1b1 13 24 14 12 14 14 12 12 12 13 13 29                                                  
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               

 

Group A-1

Group A-1 are all one step removed from Group A. They would still be closely related. Their common ancestor would likely be further back.

Ancestor Donor

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"Old" William Crisp b. 1695 NC Bobby J
13334

R1b1

 

 13 24 14 12 14 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 10 11 19 19 16 15 19 18 36 38 14 12
Lee Roy Crisp Frank
13538 		R1b1 13 24 14 12 14 14 12 12 12 13 14 29                                                  
Bennett Crisp Wiley B.
37521 		R1b1 13 24 14 11 14 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17                        
Mancel Crisp b.1764 NC David
13768

R1b1

 

 13 24 14 11 14 14 12 12 12 13 13 29                                                  
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               

 

Group A-2

Group A-2 shows 2 markers off from Group A. The markers are the faster mutating ones, which only slightly decreases the probability of being closely related They would still be related but not quite as closely as above.

Ancestor Donor

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Mancel Crisp b.1764 NC Robert (Bob)
#13328

R1b1

 

 13 24 14 12 14 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 18 9 9 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 15 17                        
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               

Group B

Group B shows 4 Crisp lines that are not closely related. The yellow markers that match show a closer relationship.

 

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John A. Logan Crisp Fred
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R1b1

 

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John Crisp ca1730 Suffolk England Leon T #60180 R1b1 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 14 12 30 17 9 9 11 11 25 15 18 28 15 16 17 17                        
Chesley Crisp 1805 Anthony
13318		  R1b1 13 22 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 24 14 19 29 15 16 17 18                        
Abel Crisp John C.
58734 		R1b1 13 25 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 14 15 17 18 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 18 36 36 12 12
  Ryszard
112350 		R1a 13 25 15 11 11 14 12 12 11 14 11 30                                                  
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               

It is obvious from the observation of 1000's of samples that some markers change or mutate at a faster rate than others. While that actual 'faster rate' has not yet been definitively calculated, not all markers should be treated the same for evaluation purposes.

The markers in red have shown a faster mutation rate then the average, and therefore these markers are very helpful at splitting lineages into sub sets, or branches, within your family tree.

Explained another way, if you match exactly on all of the markers except for one or a few of the markers we have determined mutate more quickly, then despite the mutation this mismatch only slightly decreases the probability of two people in your surname group who match 11/12 or even 23/25 of not sharing a recent common ancestor.

Haplo Groups

The predicted results compare your Family Tree DNA Y-DNA STR test with the world-wide database of Dr. Hammer and customers who have had their SNP tested by us. The comparative Haplogroups shown below were confirmed by SNP(Single Nucleotide Polymorphism) tests at Dr. Hammer's lab, which uses the YCC nomenclature. Haplogroups represent fractures in the tree and are tied to deep ancestry (think 10,000 or 10's of 1000's of years) and are shown in the human Phylogenetic tree. Please note that countries in this database are listed by the place one came from or currently lives. The value therefore is that it tells researches about migratory patterns, and gives information about the age of the ‘group’ of people -- after all, everyone on the tree that isn’t in Haplogroup A and B have lived outside of Africa for at least 60,000 years - and the story is how you got where you live now.

I - The I, I1, and I1a lineages are nearly completely restricted to northwestern Europe. These would most likely have been common within Viking populations. One lineage of this group extends down into central Europe.

I1b - This line was derived within Viking / Scandinavian populations in northwest Europe and has since spread down into southern Europe where it is present at low frequencies.

J2 - This lineage originated in the northern portion of the Fertile Crescent where it later spread throughout central Asia, the Mediterranean, and south into India. As with other populations with Mediterranean ancestry this lineage is found within Jewish populations.

Q - The Q lineage is the lineage that links Asia and the Americas. This lineage is found in North and Central Asian populations as well as native Americans. This lineage is believed to have originated in Central Asia and migrated through the Altai / Baikal region of northern Eurasia into the Americas.

R1a - The R1a lineage is believed to have originated in the Eurasian Steppes north of the Black and Caspian Seas. This lineage is believed to have originated in a population of the Kurgan culture, known for the domestication of the horse (approximately 3000 B.C.E.). These people were also believed to be the first speakers of the Indo-European language group. This lineage is currently found in central and western Asia, India, and in Slavic populations of Eastern Europe.

R1b - Haplogroup R1b is the most common haplogroup in European populations. It is believed to have expanded throughout Europe as humans re-colonized after the last glacial maximum 10-12 thousand years ago. This lineage is also the haplogroup containing the Atlantic modal haplotype.

Below are the male lines from the earliest ancestor for each participant in our Project

1. Moses Prescott Crisp 1750-60 NC
2.William Cherry Crisp
3. Ezekiel Cherry
4. Andrew Jackson Crisp
5. Troy Dee Crisp
6. Donor Raymond #13313
 1. Mancel Crisp 1764 NC
2. Tilman Crisp
3. Mansil M. Crisp
4. James Henry Crisp/
5. Mansil Monroe Crisp
6. Donor Robert (Bob) #13328
 1. William Crisp Sr. 1695-1783
2. Bray/unknown
3. Alexander Crisp
.4. Miller Crisp
5.Joel Harvey Crisp1854
6. Mary Josephine Crisp
7. Myrtle Mae Garland
8. Mary Ellen Campbell
9. Myrtle Ellen Nelson
10. Donor Bobby J #13334
1. John A. Logan Crisp
2 Alfred Harvey Crisp 1861-1937 KY
3.Curtis Mack (Max) Crisp
4.Fred Givens Crisp
5. Donor Fred C. #13800

1. Mancel Crisp 1764 NC

Donor David #13768

 1. Leroy Randolph Crisp 1814
2. William Terrell Crisp
3. Reuben Terral Crisp
4. Buck Crisp, JR 1911
5. Franklin Terrall Crisp, Sr.
6. Donor Franklin, Jr. #13588

1. Chesley Crisp 1805

Donor Anthony #13318

1. John Crisp (Rhoda)
2. Bennett Crisp
3. James Pendleton Crisp
4. Jason Martin Crisp
5. Harry Pendleton Crisp
6. Donor Wiley B. #37521

1. William James Crisp 1856 NC
2. Charley Edward Crisp
3. Milton Rodman Crisp
4.Donor Peter #46936

1. Abel Crisp

Donor John C. #58734

1. John Crisp, c1730, Suffolk England
2. John H. Crisp 1755 VA
3. Archibald F. Crisp c1800 VA
4. Alfred Y. Crisp c1825 TN
5. Alfred Butler Crisp 1861 KY
6. Cam Archibald Crisp 1894 KY
7. Leon Truitt Crisp 1923
8. Donor Leon T. II #60180

 

 1. William M. W. Crisp
2. Samuel Mathis Crisp 1814, KY
3. Thomas Jasper Newton Crisp, 1856, TX
4. Thomas Francis Marion Crisp 1887 TX
Matthew James Crisp 1922 TX
6. Donor Robert M. #101897
Donor Ryszard #112350    

 

 

A 12/12 match has a likelyhood of 99.9% of sharing a common ancestor.. There is a 50% probability the MRCA is no longer than 14.5 generations. Using FTDNA's estimate of time of generation, 25 years, from 2003, the MRCA would be within the last 360 years approximately, or since about 1640's.

An 11/12 match means there is a 50% probability that the MRCA was not longer than 36.5 generations, (910 years), a 90% probablity that the MRCA was no longer than 84.7 generations and a 95% that the MRCA was no longer than 104.4 generations.

A 25 marker upgrade can be ordered which will further tighten the time line to the MRCA. Another kit need not be ordered for this. Usually for a 12/12 or 11/12 match the upgrade is recommended.

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Updated November 15, 2007

© Ethel Crisp Taylor